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		<title>By: carol brown</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-584491</link>
		<dc:creator>carol brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
  I know someone near to be who has a bronze
Human figure holding a figure; abstract like sticks. e.y.c.k. Numbered 52  a.binder 
( foundry ? ) haarlem  Any knowledge of this item and rough value ?  Thank you, Carol losttreasures822@adelphia.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
  I know someone near to be who has a bronze<br />
Human figure holding a figure; abstract like sticks. e.y.c.k. Numbered 52  a.binder<br />
( foundry ? ) haarlem  Any knowledge of this item and rough value ?  Thank you, Carol <a href="mailto:losttreasures822@adelphia.net">losttreasures822@adelphia.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel van Benthuysen</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23467</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel van Benthuysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A late comment but I have to add that van Eyck's very prominent (one might even say florid) signature on this painting, done, as you point out, in an era when not many paintings carried ANY signature, has often been interpreted by scholars as the signature of an offical witness to the marriage being portrayed here. Christian marriage in the late gothic era of Northern Europedid not require the presence of a priest or minister, but it did require the presence of a reliable and honorable witness. Hence the shadowy image of van Eyck in the mirror, underscoring his presence. What better witness than someone who can actually show you every detail of the event?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A late comment but I have to add that van Eyck&#8217;s very prominent (one might even say florid) signature on this painting, done, as you point out, in an era when not many paintings carried ANY signature, has often been interpreted by scholars as the signature of an offical witness to the marriage being portrayed here. Christian marriage in the late gothic era of Northern Europedid not require the presence of a priest or minister, but it did require the presence of a reliable and honorable witness. Hence the shadowy image of van Eyck in the mirror, underscoring his presence. What better witness than someone who can actually show you every detail of the event?</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23450</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale,

Thats always fine, and links back appreciated. Thanks for the compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale,</p>
<p>Thats always fine, and links back appreciated. Thanks for the compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Tyrrell</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23441</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Tyrrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops messed up the link - or does your blog take out the code?

Anyway this link is to an article about the drawings of the Guards at the National Gallery by Hockney 

http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=16</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops messed up the link - or does your blog take out the code?</p>
<p>Anyway this link is to an article about the drawings of the Guards at the National Gallery by Hockney </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=16" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=16</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Tyrrell</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23440</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Tyrrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charley - it's woth taking a look at some of Hockney's Camera Lucida drawings if you get the chance as they clearly demonstrate the impact on perspective of using a lens as a drawing aid - particularly , &lt;a href="href="http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=1"&gt;http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=16&lt;/a&gt;, his series of drawings of the guards at the National Gallery in London. 

The other thing I find curious about the use of the word 'realism' in relation to painters like Van Eyck is that the eye, is incapable of seeing that level of detail.  True realism would in fact blur some of the 'detail' depending on where the focus is.

My favourite Jan van Eyck is "Portrait of a Man with a turban" - and had always thought it much bigger than it actually is until I saw it 'in the flesh' as it were for the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charley - it&#8217;s woth taking a look at some of Hockney&#8217;s Camera Lucida drawings if you get the chance as they clearly demonstrate the impact on perspective of using a lens as a drawing aid - particularly , <a href="href="http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=1">http://www.thelamp.ca/books/index.php?id=16</a>, his series of drawings of the guards at the National Gallery in London. </p>
<p>The other thing I find curious about the use of the word &#8216;realism&#8217; in relation to painters like Van Eyck is that the eye, is incapable of seeing that level of detail.  True realism would in fact blur some of the &#8216;detail&#8217; depending on where the focus is.</p>
<p>My favourite Jan van Eyck is &#8220;Portrait of a Man with a turban&#8221; - and had always thought it much bigger than it actually is until I saw it &#8216;in the flesh&#8217; as it were for the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Stephanos</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23224</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Stephanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charley, ditto on the comments above. I've made your blog one of my regular stops every morning and it's always worth the trip. I hope you don't mind, but I've also swiped a post idea or two for my blog(always attributing yours though). Please keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charley, ditto on the comments above. I&#8217;ve made your blog one of my regular stops every morning and it&#8217;s always worth the trip. I hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I&#8217;ve also swiped a post idea or two for my blog(always attributing yours though). Please keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-23012</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I appreciate the comments, and it matters to me that people are enjoying the posts. I do try to keep a balance between being informative and remaining casual and personal, so it's nice to know it's appreciated. 

Detlef, thanks for the mention of Hockney's book. I'm not familiar with it, but it sounds worthwhile. Somewhere on my list is the intention of doing posts on some of the various  drawing, sighting and scaling aids that artists have used over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I appreciate the comments, and it matters to me that people are enjoying the posts. I do try to keep a balance between being informative and remaining casual and personal, so it&#8217;s nice to know it&#8217;s appreciated. </p>
<p>Detlef, thanks for the mention of Hockney&#8217;s book. I&#8217;m not familiar with it, but it sounds worthwhile. Somewhere on my list is the intention of doing posts on some of the various  drawing, sighting and scaling aids that artists have used over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Detlef</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-22926</link>
		<dc:creator>Detlef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, great blog and I have been lurking for a while.  David Hockney in his book Secret Knowledge uses van Eyck (and others) to demonstrate his theory that the quantum leap in realism could only have occurred through the use of optical aids.  Likewise he goes on to say that these aids, and their distortionary qualities at the lens/projection margins resulted in some warped perspective. 

Again, great blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, great blog and I have been lurking for a while.  David Hockney in his book Secret Knowledge uses van Eyck (and others) to demonstrate his theory that the quantum leap in realism could only have occurred through the use of optical aids.  Likewise he goes on to say that these aids, and their distortionary qualities at the lens/projection margins resulted in some warped perspective. </p>
<p>Again, great blog.</p>
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		<title>By: fermenta</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-22905</link>
		<dc:creator>fermenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been following your blog for months and I have to say that I find it fascinating. I enjoy reading every post because it talks about painters or art pieces or whatever in such an 'easy' way. I don't know exactly how to explain it. I mean it is accurate enough but also personal and very attractive to keep on reading.

Anyway, an excellent blog.

salud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following your blog for months and I have to say that I find it fascinating. I enjoy reading every post because it talks about painters or art pieces or whatever in such an &#8216;easy&#8217; way. I don&#8217;t know exactly how to explain it. I mean it is accurate enough but also personal and very attractive to keep on reading.</p>
<p>Anyway, an excellent blog.</p>
<p>salud!</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2007/02/03/jan-van-eyck/#comment-22900</link>
		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog, Charley. This is one I'll send my readers to. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog, Charley. This is one I&#8217;ll send my readers to. Thanks.</p>
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