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	<title>Comments on: David Jon Kassan</title>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2008/08/28/david-jon-kassan/#comment-601266</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do  you   when  david  hockney  was  in  arkansas in  the  usa  i  no  he  was  1976</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel van Benthuysen</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2008/08/28/david-jon-kassan/#comment-560897</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel van Benthuysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad Mr. Morris likes Kassan's work and gives him more credit than Beno does. But I have to disagree with Mr. Morris's interpretation of David Hockney, Mr. Hockney's talent and Mr. Hockney's assertions about what the old masters could or could not do.

First, I think it's abundantly clear from paintings and drawings early in Hockney's career that he acquits himself as a VERY capable draftsman. What he has chosen to do with his skills in the decades since is open to interpretation, but I don't think there is anything in his work to suggest he deserves to be lumped with "hacks and charlatans."

2nd, Mr. Morris ought to take a closer look at the Hockney treatise, "Secret Knowledge". Hockney does not maintain that the old masters "couldn't draw too well." If I suggested you use a ruler to help you draw a straight line, would that be equivalent to suggesting YOU can't draw too well? Hockney simply says that in addition to what they knew and could do, they ALSO took advantage of an emerging technology. Does the fact that Vermeer used a camera obscura somehow diminish his accomplishments? I think not, and yet it's almost certain he did use such a device.

Lastly, I don't agree with the sweeping assertion that Modernists and Post-modernists are bankrupt of creativity and talent. I consider myself a pretty traditional representational painter but my work is influenced by all sorts of modernists like Diebenkorn, De Kooning, Milton Avery and other 20th and 21st century artists. 

Mr. Morris might consider that the mind is like a parachute: it operates best when it's open. Besides, even when you dislike it or disapprove of it, art can't hurt you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Mr. Morris likes Kassan&#8217;s work and gives him more credit than Beno does. But I have to disagree with Mr. Morris&#8217;s interpretation of David Hockney, Mr. Hockney&#8217;s talent and Mr. Hockney&#8217;s assertions about what the old masters could or could not do.</p>
<p>First, I think it&#8217;s abundantly clear from paintings and drawings early in Hockney&#8217;s career that he acquits himself as a VERY capable draftsman. What he has chosen to do with his skills in the decades since is open to interpretation, but I don&#8217;t think there is anything in his work to suggest he deserves to be lumped with &#8220;hacks and charlatans.&#8221;</p>
<p>2nd, Mr. Morris ought to take a closer look at the Hockney treatise, &#8220;Secret Knowledge&#8221;. Hockney does not maintain that the old masters &#8220;couldn&#8217;t draw too well.&#8221; If I suggested you use a ruler to help you draw a straight line, would that be equivalent to suggesting YOU can&#8217;t draw too well? Hockney simply says that in addition to what they knew and could do, they ALSO took advantage of an emerging technology. Does the fact that Vermeer used a camera obscura somehow diminish his accomplishments? I think not, and yet it&#8217;s almost certain he did use such a device.</p>
<p>Lastly, I don&#8217;t agree with the sweeping assertion that Modernists and Post-modernists are bankrupt of creativity and talent. I consider myself a pretty traditional representational painter but my work is influenced by all sorts of modernists like Diebenkorn, De Kooning, Milton Avery and other 20th and 21st century artists. </p>
<p>Mr. Morris might consider that the mind is like a parachute: it operates best when it&#8217;s open. Besides, even when you dislike it or disapprove of it, art can&#8217;t hurt you.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda Del Pesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belinda Del Pesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was my first introduction to Kassan. Thank you. I spent a good portion of my evening happily fawning over his work. His portrait demo is amazing. He writes that the 3 hour drawing was a bit cursory for him, compared to the normal 10-15 hours he puts into a study. What a thought provoking testimonial to the amount of time one should invest in seeing, and carefully rendering a subject.  His mastery of form and values is wonderful to watch in action. Very inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my first introduction to Kassan. Thank you. I spent a good portion of my evening happily fawning over his work. His portrait demo is amazing. He writes that the 3 hour drawing was a bit cursory for him, compared to the normal 10-15 hours he puts into a study. What a thought provoking testimonial to the amount of time one should invest in seeing, and carefully rendering a subject.  His mastery of form and values is wonderful to watch in action. Very inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I really do appreciate everyone's comments, negative or positive. I certainly have my own strong opinions about art, and I like hearing from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I really do appreciate everyone&#8217;s comments, negative or positive. I certainly have my own strong opinions about art, and I like hearing from others.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Garber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Garber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charley, thanks for this post.  Kassan is incredibly talented and painstakingly detailed.  Also, you are to be commended for your PC response to the nitwit who left the post that said, "I don't see anything special in these paintings."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charley, thanks for this post.  Kassan is incredibly talented and painstakingly detailed.  Also, you are to be commended for your PC response to the nitwit who left the post that said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t see anything special in these paintings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This artist is amazingly talented and skilled. Thanks for introducing him to me.

Unlike Beno, I CAN see emotion in this painting. It takes a lot of talent to do this kind of painting.

It does not take much talent to make scribbles and scrawls on a flat plane--like David Hockney. The same David Hockney who thinks that the old masters couldn't draw too well. 
I am so incredibly tired of hacks, charlatans, those full of themselves and their supporters running down artists whose jockstrap they could not hold.
I would also say that I am tired of contemporary Modernists and Post-Modernists passing off a bankruptcy of creativity and talent as true art.

Sorry but it has been a long night at work and I have been thinking about this subject now for quite awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This artist is amazingly talented and skilled. Thanks for introducing him to me.</p>
<p>Unlike Beno, I CAN see emotion in this painting. It takes a lot of talent to do this kind of painting.</p>
<p>It does not take much talent to make scribbles and scrawls on a flat plane&#8211;like David Hockney. The same David Hockney who thinks that the old masters couldn&#8217;t draw too well.<br />
I am so incredibly tired of hacks, charlatans, those full of themselves and their supporters running down artists whose jockstrap they could not hold.<br />
I would also say that I am tired of contemporary Modernists and Post-Modernists passing off a bankruptcy of creativity and talent as true art.</p>
<p>Sorry but it has been a long night at work and I have been thinking about this subject now for quite awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment. 

Obviously, I disagree, but that's one of the most interesting things about art, the way different art speaks to different people. 

Though I disagree with Ross on a number of things (like the presumptive status of Bouguereau), I also like a lot of (undeservedly) forgotten Salon painters. "Emotionally empty" is a judgement open to interpretation, based on the emotional response of the viewer doing the assessment,  but I appreciate you taking the time to voice your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment. </p>
<p>Obviously, I disagree, but that&#8217;s one of the most interesting things about art, the way different art speaks to different people. </p>
<p>Though I disagree with Ross on a number of things (like the presumptive status of Bouguereau), I also like a lot of (undeservedly) forgotten Salon painters. &#8220;Emotionally empty&#8221; is a judgement open to interpretation, based on the emotional response of the viewer doing the assessment,  but I appreciate you taking the time to voice your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: beno</title>
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		<dc:creator>beno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dont see anything special in these paintings. A lot of time consuming work and no talent. We have cameras for stuff like this nowdays. Fred Ross from Artrenewal would probably like Kassan's art, since he adores emotionally empty art of (deservedly) forgotten Salon painters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dont see anything special in these paintings. A lot of time consuming work and no talent. We have cameras for stuff like this nowdays. Fred Ross from Artrenewal would probably like Kassan&#8217;s art, since he adores emotionally empty art of (deservedly) forgotten Salon painters.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel van Benthuysen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel van Benthuysen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent post, Charley, and an excellent subject about whom to post as well. It's worth noting that Kassan, now 31, has been something of an art world phenom: He began attracting national recognition and awards in his mid twenties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post, Charley, and an excellent subject about whom to post as well. It&#8217;s worth noting that Kassan, now 31, has been something of an art world phenom: He began attracting national recognition and awards in his mid twenties.</p>
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