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	<title>Comments on: The Virtual Paintout</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Holt</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-764157</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write up on the Virtual Paintout. I especially like the lead in photo. I really enjoy the Bill Guffey&#039;s monthly projects and am currently working on a Paris painting. So far I used pics from the Google cameras, but this time I an thinking of using images from Panramio. These photos are from various people and may be infringement. But it seams unlikely any one would come after the user these photos.
I am also a regular participant in Karin&#039;s Different Strokes site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up on the Virtual Paintout. I especially like the lead in photo. I really enjoy the Bill Guffey&#8217;s monthly projects and am currently working on a Paris painting. So far I used pics from the Google cameras, but this time I an thinking of using images from Panramio. These photos are from various people and may be infringement. But it seams unlikely any one would come after the user these photos.<br />
I am also a regular participant in Karin&#8217;s Different Strokes site.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-760258</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article Charley.  This is a topic we often discuss in our studio. Thanks for including me - I just recently found it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article Charley.  This is a topic we often discuss in our studio. Thanks for including me &#8211; I just recently found it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Guffey</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-749414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Guffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article Charley. Couldn&#039;t have asked for anything better.

Thanks Karen. Your site rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article Charley. Couldn&#8217;t have asked for anything better.</p>
<p>Thanks Karen. Your site rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-749346</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What fun! I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What fun! I love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Karin Jurick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin Jurick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s using your brain Bill Guffey. And it doesn&#039;t intrude on rights of images - as it surely would with using Flickr.  And thank you for the mention Charley. I do appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s using your brain Bill Guffey. And it doesn&#8217;t intrude on rights of images &#8211; as it surely would with using Flickr.  And thank you for the mention Charley. I do appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: MÃ¡rio</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-748454</link>
		<dc:creator>MÃ¡rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I always use Flickr to find pictures about other cities to paint. I think the quality is much better for a photo reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I always use Flickr to find pictures about other cities to paint. I think the quality is much better for a photo reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Bongers</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-747918</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Bongers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is extremely timely for me.
I asked legal advice on this &#039;source material vs. plagiarism&#039; subject this week!

For a comic book project I&#039;m using a lot of photo material as documentation.

I found one photo so impressive that I used it quite literaly and asked the photographer if I could use it that way. I included the finished drawing in my request, specified that I would explicitely thank him in the book and give him a copy of the book and invite him at the presentation - to which he enthousiastically agreed.

But I&#039;m still worried about the photographs I used partially. The internet is a vast library of information, be it textual or visual. I contacted a (government funded and free!...but in Belgium:) ) legal advisor for artists and she said that &quot;it depends&quot; whether it&#039;s plagiarism or not and that &quot;every case is interpreted differently by courts&quot; and that &quot;intuition should give you a good clue as to how far you can go&quot;.

Intuition??? And she is a specialist!

Sure, I&#039;ll &quot;cover my tracks&quot; by using a different perspective or more windows in the background or (very typically) replace the people, the colors, the number of windows...
(Doesn&#039;t that last line sound criminal?)

But what if I like that schadow line or that dog looking out of that window?
There used to be a youtube clip where many sources of Moebius (Jean Giraud) where displayed next to the drawing and all of them where clearly single-source interpretations - often of old black-and-white stills from western movies. Did he ask permission for all of these? Currently that clip has been removed from youtube.

I think that this topic, where google &#039;opens the doors&#039; is eventually the way it will progress for the whole internet, but as I read on some other blog &quot;if musicians cannot use the tiniest sample without permision, even if you distort it with loads of effects, so why would it be different for visual &#039;samples&#039; that you distort by turning it into a painting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is extremely timely for me.<br />
I asked legal advice on this &#8217;source material vs. plagiarism&#8217; subject this week!</p>
<p>For a comic book project I&#8217;m using a lot of photo material as documentation.</p>
<p>I found one photo so impressive that I used it quite literaly and asked the photographer if I could use it that way. I included the finished drawing in my request, specified that I would explicitely thank him in the book and give him a copy of the book and invite him at the presentation &#8211; to which he enthousiastically agreed.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still worried about the photographs I used partially. The internet is a vast library of information, be it textual or visual. I contacted a (government funded and free!&#8230;but in Belgium:) ) legal advisor for artists and she said that &#8220;it depends&#8221; whether it&#8217;s plagiarism or not and that &#8220;every case is interpreted differently by courts&#8221; and that &#8220;intuition should give you a good clue as to how far you can go&#8221;.</p>
<p>Intuition??? And she is a specialist!</p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;ll &#8220;cover my tracks&#8221; by using a different perspective or more windows in the background or (very typically) replace the people, the colors, the number of windows&#8230;<br />
(Doesn&#8217;t that last line sound criminal?)</p>
<p>But what if I like that schadow line or that dog looking out of that window?<br />
There used to be a youtube clip where many sources of Moebius (Jean Giraud) where displayed next to the drawing and all of them where clearly single-source interpretations &#8211; often of old black-and-white stills from western movies. Did he ask permission for all of these? Currently that clip has been removed from youtube.</p>
<p>I think that this topic, where google &#8216;opens the doors&#8217; is eventually the way it will progress for the whole internet, but as I read on some other blog &#8220;if musicians cannot use the tiniest sample without permision, even if you distort it with loads of effects, so why would it be different for visual &#8217;samples&#8217; that you distort by turning it into a painting?</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-747795</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Paolo. I wonder how many other artists are already doing this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Paolo. I wonder how many other artists are already doing this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo Rivera</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/05/01/the-virtual-paintout/comment-page-1/#comment-747777</link>
		<dc:creator>Paolo Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I was just using Street View the other day to draw Paris (along with Google Maps for an aerial view). It&#039;s a constant source of visual reference and inspiration. Glad to see I&#039;m not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I was just using Street View the other day to draw Paris (along with Google Maps for an aerial view). It&#8217;s a constant source of visual reference and inspiration. Glad to see I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
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