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	<title>Comments on: Blue and green, or is it?</title>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/06/26/blue-and-green-or-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-772323</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

My JPEG images were only meant to illustrate the article. Anyone interested in making the comparison in Photoshop should use the original image on Akiyoshi Kitaoka&#039;s site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>My JPEG images were only meant to illustrate the article. Anyone interested in making the comparison in Photoshop should use the original image on Akiyoshi Kitaoka&#8217;s site.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This effect is called Assimilation. 

Edwin Land (the inventor of Polaroid) did some very interesting research on the perception of colours being dependent on the surrounding colours. He was able to predict what a colour patch would look like by running a photocell &quot;mouse&quot; across the nearby patches.

When an image contains less than 256 colours and needs to be sharp, it should be posted as a GIF, not a JPG. This applies to most colour illusions (and to maps, graphs, and diagrams). The JPG process can change colours as well as losing sharpness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This effect is called Assimilation. </p>
<p>Edwin Land (the inventor of Polaroid) did some very interesting research on the perception of colours being dependent on the surrounding colours. He was able to predict what a colour patch would look like by running a photocell &#8220;mouse&#8221; across the nearby patches.</p>
<p>When an image contains less than 256 colours and needs to be sharp, it should be posted as a GIF, not a JPG. This applies to most colour illusions (and to maps, graphs, and diagrams). The JPG process can change colours as well as losing sharpness.</p>
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		<title>By: J.A. Kraulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.A. Kraulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the same discrepancy, and you do need to go to the original site.  Zooming into the image here to see the individual pixels, you can see that the colors have been corrupted by the compression as Charley points out.  The illusion on the site recommended is every bit as strong, and there are other examples equally unbelievable, if not more so.

Thanks, Charley, for yet another one of your hundreds of fascinating and informative pieces.  BTW, I&#039;m a photographer working in Photoshop and other image editing programs, and I often encounter this kind of illusion in real world situations.  I&#039;ll have some subtle pastel that I want to intensify, say a rosy tinge in the sky perhaps, but when I try to increase the saturation, nothing happens.  A check of the info palette then reveals that the color is actually neutral, or another shade of blue, damn.  It just looks pink or peach because of the surround.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the same discrepancy, and you do need to go to the original site.  Zooming into the image here to see the individual pixels, you can see that the colors have been corrupted by the compression as Charley points out.  The illusion on the site recommended is every bit as strong, and there are other examples equally unbelievable, if not more so.</p>
<p>Thanks, Charley, for yet another one of your hundreds of fascinating and informative pieces.  BTW, I&#8217;m a photographer working in Photoshop and other image editing programs, and I often encounter this kind of illusion in real world situations.  I&#8217;ll have some subtle pastel that I want to intensify, say a rosy tinge in the sky perhaps, but when I try to increase the saturation, nothing happens.  A check of the info palette then reveals that the color is actually neutral, or another shade of blue, damn.  It just looks pink or peach because of the surround.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.linesandcolors.com/2009/06/26/blue-and-green-or-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-771587</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you measure them from my JPEGs, or the original image on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/color12e.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  Akiyoshi Kitaokaâ€™s  site&lt;/a&gt;?

The discrepancy may simply be JPEG color shift (an unfortunate byproduct of JPEG compression), but yes the point is that they are not the widely different colors they appear to be.

Thanks. I&#039;m glad you like the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you measure them from my JPEGs, or the original image on <a href="http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/color12e.html" rel="nofollow">  Akiyoshi Kitaokaâ€™s  site</a>?</p>
<p>The discrepancy may simply be JPEG color shift (an unfortunate byproduct of JPEG compression), but yes the point is that they are not the widely different colors they appear to be.</p>
<p>Thanks. I&#8217;m glad you like the site.</p>
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		<title>By: NYstudios</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYstudios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I measured the two colors you have they aren&#039;t the same. Close, which I think is the point of the post, but one is:

RGB: 54-234-137 and in Munsell 4.3G 8.1/11.9 

and the other is:

RGB: 3-253-170 and in Munsell 7.7G 8.6/11.9

What I think is important to realize is that these two colors have almost the exact same chroma and nearly the same value, but their hues aren&#039;t the same. 4.3 and 7.7 is a big jump. I think, as you state in your post, color relationships are the hard thing for many people. But here we can see that you can do some interesting things by adjusting the hue and not the value or the chroma.

Great site by the way! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I measured the two colors you have they aren&#8217;t the same. Close, which I think is the point of the post, but one is:</p>
<p>RGB: 54-234-137 and in Munsell 4.3G 8.1/11.9 </p>
<p>and the other is:</p>
<p>RGB: 3-253-170 and in Munsell 7.7G 8.6/11.9</p>
<p>What I think is important to realize is that these two colors have almost the exact same chroma and nearly the same value, but their hues aren&#8217;t the same. 4.3 and 7.7 is a big jump. I think, as you state in your post, color relationships are the hard thing for many people. But here we can see that you can do some interesting things by adjusting the hue and not the value or the chroma.</p>
<p>Great site by the way! :)</p>
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